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Martori oculari din CC-ul, 22-24 decembrie 1989: amintirile lui Doru Teodor Maries impotriva amintirilor altor martori oculari

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punctul de vedere strict personal (daca vreti sa folositi informatii de pe saitul acesta, va rog sa luati legatura cu mine la hallria@comcast.net .  Va multumesc.)–RAH

Iata “proba” din http://www.ziuaveche.ro/investigatii/2391-asociatia-21-decembrie-1989-acuza-romania-la-cedo-pentru-crimele-lui-iliescu despre ceea ce s-a intamplat in CC-ul si despre “asa-zisul fenomen terorist” din decembrie 1989:  amintirile/opinia personala ale/a lui Doru Teodor Maries.  Bine.  Acestea sunt amintirile lui cel mai putin de la iunie 1991 incoace (vezi comentarile lui de atunci mai jos).  Numai ca el n-a fost deloc singurul cu amintirile lui din zilele aceste in CC-ul (si amintirile lor sunt foarte diferite, si mult mai detaliate…tot mai jos)…

5. Ordin de zi nr. 327 din 29.12.1989 al Comandamentului R 70 Ge. Av. (ANEXA 7)

In ziua de 21.12.1989 orele 22:00 in urma ordinului verbal al comandantului Aviatiei Militare, comandantul R 70 Ge. Av. a ordonat formarea unui batalion de interventie (…) cu misiunea de a apara incepand cu data de 22.12.1989 zona cuprinsa intre Palatul Republicii, sediul fostului CC al UTC, Biblioteca Universitatii si Atheneu; Dupa introducerea subunitatilor in dispozitiv la orele 18:30 grupurile teroriste au deschis foc din mai multe cladiri aferente locului de dispunere. Aceste grupuri au executat foc din mansarde, de pe acoperisuri, etajele superoare ale cladirilor asupra militarilor, tehnicii de lupta si a manifestantilor adunati in Piata Palatului; ca atare la ordinul cpt. Ciontea Valentin, comandantul batalionului de interventie, s-a deschis foc asupra acestora. Focul a durat 12 ore. (…)”

Reclamantul s-a aflat in cladirea Comitetului Central la etajul 6 si la auzul focurilor de arma s-a repezit spre geamul din biroul fostului sef de Stat Major al garzilor patriotice (biroul unde cu aproximativ 9 ore inainte fusese ucis fostul Ministru al Apararii Nationale). S-a tras un foc de arma, glontul lovind marginea geamului, iar urma lasata avea o adancime de 25 cm, vizibila cu ochiul liber din strada si astazi dupa 20 de ani. Ea a fost imortalizata pe multe pelicule si a starnit curiozitatea a numerosi ziaristi din tara si strainatate. Nu mai vorbim ca la 10-15 minute de la executarea focului, reclamantul a iesit pe cladire Comitetului Central impotriva vointei colegilor pentru a vedea ce se intampla si a intelege asa zisul fenomen terorist care i se parea ilogic, dupa 6 ore de la cucerire Comitetului Central, focuri de arma ce nu se justificau, dovedindu-se ulterior, dar mai ales acum dupa obtinerea documentelor ca reclamantul a intuit situatia in termeni reali inca din primele momente – diversiunea si lupta pentru putere in care au cazut mii de victime.

Teodor Maries cu Angela Bacescu (iunie 1991)

“Eu sustin ca martor ocular ca [securistii] nu au tras.  Ba, mai mult, si-au lasat armele si munitia.  Acum inteleg de ce.  Probabil ca aveau informatii ca gogorita cu “teroristii” o sa fie pusa in spinarea lor.  Au fost bine informati.  Nu s-au implicat in conflict, nu au tras.  Altfel ar fi fost razboi civil, se omora frate cu frate.”   [Doru Teodor Maries in dialog cu revista Europa, interviu luat de Angela Bacescu, iunie 1991]


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Cat de noi sunt dezvaluirile Asociatiei 21 decembrie? (“Asociatia 21 Decembrie 1989 acuza Romania la CEDO pentru crimele lui Iliescu”)

Posted by romanianrevolutionofdecember1989 on April 9, 2010

Liderii asociatiei 21 decembrie si sprijinatorii lor cred ca ei au descoperit mari adevaruri si secrete pana acum niciodata auzite in scrisoarea aceasta:  http://www.ziuaveche.ro/investigatii/2391-asociatia-21-decembrie-1989-acuza-romania-la-cedo-pentru-crimele-lui-iliescu.

E chiar asa?

Iata un exemplu elocvent despre cat de noua si nemaiauzita este informatia prezentata in scrisoarea.

8. Extras din Jurnalul grupei operative a unitatii militare 01315 Bucuresti. (ANEXA 10)

– “In seara zilei de 21.12.1989 in jurul orelor 18:30 B. Tc. a fost alarmat, a primit misiunea de a se deplasa pe itinerariul Cazarma, Calea 13 Septembrie, Academia Militara, str. Stirbei Voda, Sala Palatului, Hotel Intercontinental si a executa ordinele M.Ap.N (…).

– Ajuns in zona Salii Dalles, m-am prezentat Ministrului Apararii Nationale care era insotit de domnul general Ortopan, domnul col. Oana Marin, care mi-a ordonat sa trec cu tancurile prin baricada ridicata de demonstranti din diferite automobile, alte obiecte care toate ardeau. (…)

– In timp ce incercam sa iau legatura radio cu tancurile am vazut 4 civili, langa Sala Dalles cum executau foc cu arme automate, de sub pardesiile cu care erau imbracati. (…)

NUMAI CA ACELA DIN URMA A APARUT MAI DETALIAT INTR-UN ARTICOL DIN ANUL TRECUT!

În acest timp, gen. Hortopan s-a deplasat la tancul plt. maj. Neagu Victor făcându-i semn să se deplaseze peste baricadă. (…) În timp ce încercam să iau legătura radio cu tancurile am văzut patru civili lângă Sala Dalles cum executau foc cu arme automate, de sub pardesiile cu care erau îmbrăcaţi”.   http://www.jurnalul.ro/stire-decembrie-89/cine-a-distrus-baricada-de-la-inter-528444.html

si in cazul meu scriem despre cazul acesta de la 1996 incoace:  cazul a fost discutat si invocat mai ales in doua articole, unul din ianuarie 1990 si altul din decembrie 1993.

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Interestingly, almost four years later, in December 1993, Bacanu appeared to reconsider his earlier unquestioning claims about the role of the USLA on the basis of “new” information brought forth by Army soldiers who had been in University Square on the night of 21/22 December. According to Bacanu:

Very many officers talk about these “civilians” in long raincoats or sheepskin coats [cojoace], who arrested demonstrators from within the crowd and then beat them brutally….No one has been interested until now in these tens of “civilians” with hats who shot through the pockets of their clothes….For a time we gave credence to the claims of the USLA troops that they were not present in University Square. We have now entered into the possession of information which shows that 20 USLA officers, under the command of Colonel Florin Bejan, were located…among the demonstrators. [Emphasis added][98]

One of the Army officers told Bacanu that during the evening

…a Militia vehicle arrived from which tens of men–who appeared almost as if they were brothers, in that they were all solidly-built, dressed in leather jackets, with hats on their heads–disembarked….These individuals had “short barrel” weapons and were from the Interior Ministry….They positioned themselves behind the cordon of shieldbearers and then shot from the pockets of their clothes into the demonstrators and dragged demonstrators out of the crowd…[99]

But what Bacanu termed “new revelations” were hardly new. In mid-January 1990, several Army recruits and officers referred to the actions of these “civilians” in interviews with reporters of the Army daily.[100] According to soldier Rudolf Suster:

About fifteen to twenty (dressed in civilian clothes, but one could tell that they were well-trained) disembarked from a single truck and passed in front of the soldiers with shields and when the tanks broke through the barricade which was on fire, they fired. I saw the flashes in front of their raincoats.[101]

Soldier Tiberiu Florea described a similar scene:

I also saw them. They had long raincoats or overcoats and they had guns hidden under them and they opened fire. They were in front of us, they couldn’t hide themselves from us. They didn’t all fire at the same time…One fired, then the other would.[102]

Furthermore, at the trial of Nicolae’s brother, Nicolae Andruta Ceausescu (director of the Securitate’s Baneasa Academy) in April 1990, military witnesses testified that “after the salvo of warning shots were fired, in the uproar produced, from behind us we saw civilians who were firing–I observed the movement of their clothes–hidden weapons through the pockets of their clothes.”[103] Significantly, former USLA commander, Colonel Gheorghe Ardeleanu, confirmed in a court statement that on 21 December the USLA had “performed their duties in civilian dress.”[104]

[98].. Petre Mihai Bacanu, “Au evacuat ‘materialele.’ Stropite cu sange [The got rid of “the materials” Covered with blood],” Romania Libera, 28 December 1993, 10. The reference to these civilian gunmen dressed in “sheepskin coats” (cojoace) brings back into discussion one of the articles from Horia Alexandrescu’s March 1990 series (“Adevarul despre USLA” [The truth about the USLA]) in Tineretul Liber exonerating the USLA of any wrongdoing for their actions in December. The title of the 6 March 1990 article–”‘Ace’ pentru ‘cojoacele’ teroristilor,” [‘Pins’ for the ‘sheepskin coats’ of the terrorists]–appears to bear no connection whatsoever to the article, which has no mention of “sheepskin coats” and does not even refer to the role of the USLA in University Square (events discussed in a later episode). Yet this clue and a number of others–including Alexandrescu’s introduction of this article as a “calmant,” an apparent reference to the treatment given to the drugged USLA after the events–suggest that in spite of the fact that the text of the article clears the USLA, Alexandrescu is fully conscious of the USLA’s guilt.

[99].. “Seful represiunii: maiorul Amariucai” in Bacanu, “Au evacuat ‘materialele’.”

[100].. Colonel Gh. Vaduva et. al., “Nici o pata sa nu planeze pe onoarea Armatei! [Not a stain can be placed on the Army’s honor]” Armata Poporului, no. 3 (17 January 1990), 1-2.

[101].. Ibid.

[102].. Ibid.

[103].. Captain Mihai Margineanu, “Un ‘inger’ cu aripile murdare [An ‘angel’ with dirty wings],” Armata Poporului, no. 15 (11 April 1990), 5. The witness, Lieutenant Colonel Teodor Amariucai, appears to bear his own share of the guilt for the bloodshed on the night of 21/22 December.

[104].. Stefanescu, Istoria Serviciilor Secrete, 288. The former Securitate once again appear to transfer their actions onto others in their discussion of the events in University Square. According to “a group of former Securitate officers,” the “tourists” took advantage “of the sound of shots fired in the air and resorted as in Timisoara to shooting the demonstrators in the back to produce victims to ‘mobilize’ Bucharest’s citizens.” See A Group of Former Securitate Officers, “Asa va place revolutia!”

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